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	<title>Comments on: The Point: Twitter, Celebrity, and Being Human</title>
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	<description>There&#039;s a right way. There&#039;s a wrong way. And then there&#039;s MY way.</description>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-1545</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 17:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Ramonita -- sorry for the tardy reply, I didn&#039;t get the comment notification when I should have.

I&#039;m pleased you liked the post, and I hope you&#039;ll continue to find posts to interest you, here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Ramonita &#8212; sorry for the tardy reply, I didn&#8217;t get the comment notification when I should have.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased you liked the post, and I hope you&#8217;ll continue to find posts to interest you, here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramonita Schuneman</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramonita Schuneman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very awesome post. I simply stopped by by your site and wanted to state that I have actually loved  shopping your posts. Any way, I’ll be subscribing to your RSS feed and also I hope you post once more soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very awesome post. I simply stopped by by your site and wanted to state that I have actually loved  shopping your posts. Any way, I’ll be subscribing to your RSS feed and also I hope you post once more soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello goo. Thank you, and no -- I&#039;m a Cancer.

Sure, there&#039;s no denying the fact that he shoots from the hip (yes, Cornell is an example: although I can&#039;t say I disagree with the assessment, nor is TRez the first musician to have an opinion about other musicians&#039; work--it was just the medium) and he&#039;ll be the first guy to point out that he&#039;s kind of a prick. But being kind of a prick and a perfectionist professionally does NOT justify racist commentary EVER. &lt;i&gt;EVER, EVER, EVER.&lt;/i&gt; 

I think the cowards, the crazies, and those who think that every famous person they have latched onto is their bitch are a different lot than the followers who do/say whatever their hero-of-the-day does (although I grant that there is likely some overlap, but I don&#039;t think they&#039;re necessarily part-and-parcel). At this point the internet in general, and social media specifically, means &lt;i&gt;questions of access and privilege in regards to celebrity&lt;/i&gt; (and that runs the gamut - actors, musicians, writers, artists, random public and not-so-public figures... technically since I&#039;m Known to medievalists some could try to argue that I fit the bill, too) &lt;i&gt;require consideration&lt;/i&gt;. Twitter&#039;s reaction to what was happening and to suggestions of ways things could change to help make it a better place for all involved (and specifically for TR and Q and celebs in similar straits) were ignored. The usability of Twitter is obviously not Twitter&#039;s prime concern, it&#039;s just numbers at this point... which is a shame, it could be a far more useful tool if they bothered to see how it&#039;s actually being used.

It&#039;s time to address those questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello goo. Thank you, and no &#8212; I&#8217;m a Cancer.</p>
<p>Sure, there&#8217;s no denying the fact that he shoots from the hip (yes, Cornell is an example: although I can&#8217;t say I disagree with the assessment, nor is TRez the first musician to have an opinion about other musicians&#8217; work&#8211;it was just the medium) and he&#8217;ll be the first guy to point out that he&#8217;s kind of a prick. But being kind of a prick and a perfectionist professionally does NOT justify racist commentary EVER. <i>EVER, EVER, EVER.</i> </p>
<p>I think the cowards, the crazies, and those who think that every famous person they have latched onto is their bitch are a different lot than the followers who do/say whatever their hero-of-the-day does (although I grant that there is likely some overlap, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re necessarily part-and-parcel). At this point the internet in general, and social media specifically, means <i>questions of access and privilege in regards to celebrity</i> (and that runs the gamut &#8211; actors, musicians, writers, artists, random public and not-so-public figures&#8230; technically since I&#8217;m Known to medievalists some could try to argue that I fit the bill, too) <i>require consideration</i>. Twitter&#8217;s reaction to what was happening and to suggestions of ways things could change to help make it a better place for all involved (and specifically for TR and Q and celebs in similar straits) were ignored. The usability of Twitter is obviously not Twitter&#8217;s prime concern, it&#8217;s just numbers at this point&#8230; which is a shame, it could be a far more useful tool if they bothered to see how it&#8217;s actually being used.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to address those questions.</p>
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		<title>By: goo</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>goo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Liz. I understand your point but i think that Reznor has done enough to attract this kind of reactions: he (just like trolls)also feels the right to fuck other people in the web: like the attack he did on poor never-will-be-the-same Chris cornell, silly new age acid-trip-forever Billy Corgan and poor untalented Rivers Cuomo to name a few. So, if people (mostly girls with a lot of troubles i think)keep on making negative statements about his relation with Mariqueen is just as logic as Slayer fans carving names with blades on their backs and Elton John fans with rainbow flags: they do what their idol figures do... 
Loved your writing skills, are you a scorpio? Thanks for the article. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Liz. I understand your point but i think that Reznor has done enough to attract this kind of reactions: he (just like trolls)also feels the right to fuck other people in the web: like the attack he did on poor never-will-be-the-same Chris cornell, silly new age acid-trip-forever Billy Corgan and poor untalented Rivers Cuomo to name a few. So, if people (mostly girls with a lot of troubles i think)keep on making negative statements about his relation with Mariqueen is just as logic as Slayer fans carving names with blades on their backs and Elton John fans with rainbow flags: they do what their idol figures do&#8230;<br />
Loved your writing skills, are you a scorpio? Thanks for the article. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Amanda! Welcome!

Thank you! There is so much more about social networking that needs time for consideration and discussion... but those are posts for other days. I hope you&#039;re right... that, were Himself to read it, that he would have been OK with it. But he&#039;s busy in Europe - many more important things to do! :)

(And don&#039;t worry, I&#039;m on nin.com, too, as well as twitter -- I&#039;m not a hater! But the forums have really denigrated, much to my distress (so I&#039;ve just been on to check for PMs and then skedaddling) -- and I thought this issue was ultimately bigger than TR&#039;s recent experiences, alone -- so upon consideration I decided a public comment was more appropriate than a response on the forum... even if it does put me out there and make me a target, too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Amanda! Welcome!</p>
<p>Thank you! There is so much more about social networking that needs time for consideration and discussion&#8230; but those are posts for other days. I hope you&#8217;re right&#8230; that, were Himself to read it, that he would have been OK with it. But he&#8217;s busy in Europe &#8211; many more important things to do! <img src='http://elisabeth.carnell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(And don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;m on nin.com, too, as well as twitter &#8212; I&#8217;m not a hater! But the forums have really denigrated, much to my distress (so I&#8217;ve just been on to check for PMs and then skedaddling) &#8212; and I thought this issue was ultimately bigger than TR&#8217;s recent experiences, alone &#8212; so upon consideration I decided a public comment was more appropriate than a response on the forum&#8230; even if it does put me out there and make me a target, too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Kay</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I found this on nin.com (don&#039;t hate). You said EVERYTHING I wanted to say about the social networking broohaha. Just goes to show no idea is original, just the way it&#039;s worded. Good job. And I believe TR absolutely read this and appreciated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I found this on nin.com (don&#8217;t hate). You said EVERYTHING I wanted to say about the social networking broohaha. Just goes to show no idea is original, just the way it&#8217;s worded. Good job. And I believe TR absolutely read this and appreciated it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks ladies! :) Sometimes things just need to be said... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks ladies! <img src='http://elisabeth.carnell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Sometimes things just need to be said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marodi</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>marodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I&#039;ve told you, it is a fantastic read. Very accurate and incredibly well written. Bravo, my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I&#8217;ve told you, it is a fantastic read. Very accurate and incredibly well written. Bravo, my friend!</p>
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		<title>By: OMS</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>OMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: Calderon08</title>
		<link>http://elisabeth.carnell.com/2009/the-point-twitter-celebrity-and-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Calderon08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good read, nice. He should read it :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read, nice. He should read it <img src='http://elisabeth.carnell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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